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How to piss off your bartender

The sleazeball's guide to ordering a drink

By Kate Liebers

This article pisses me off. The other night i went to a concert and ordered a couple of drinks from a bartender who went out of his way to...
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Gone are the days of the customer is always right.

At least, not when it comes to alcohol.

"That [phrase] definitely doesn't hold true in a bar," said Brian Jeffers, a recent Ohio State University graduate and ex-campus bartender. "A drunk customer is hardly ever right."

Instead, there is new service industry philosophy: Bartenders are gods. Tip well; don't anger the gods.

Such was inscribed in the bottle opener belonging to Todd Meister, "self-proclaimed king of all bartenders." Meister - who shaves before his shift and has a beard before it ends - is the type of etiquette coach who could beat the manners into you.

However, the more probable bartender punishment for the mutinous patron is not a hard fist, but a cold shoulder.

The bartenders want to help. The following guide is based on bartenders' collective pet peeves.

Rule 1. Know what you want
"My number one pet peeve: People yelling, 'Come here! Come here!' but when you get to them they don't know what they want and they don't have their money ready," said Craig Kempton, owner of The Bier Stube on High Street.

When it's busy, every moment is precious according to Jessica Zaidain, an OSU student who works at a bar in the University District.

"They take 15 seconds," said Zaidain of her peeve-producing customers. "Which in bartending world is an eternity."

Especially detested among bartenders are the snappers, the clappers, the shouters, and the money-wavers.

"I'm not a stripper, I'm a bartender," said Zaidain.

Rule 2. Don't look like a suspect stiffer

If you ask for the bargains, you might as well be saying, I don't tip.

"If you ask what's cheapest, I'm not coming back to you any more." Meister stated.

It may seem like a Catch-22 in the making: Bartenders ignore the presumed thrifty; the thrifty get bad service; the thrifty leave a bad tip.

However, Zaidain observed that penny pinchers generally don't take discounts into account when it comes to leaving the tip.

"Percentages don't matter when you bartend," Zaidain said. "A dollar per drink is expected."

After all, Zaidain noted, the bartenders have to pay out their co-bartenders, barbacks, and doorperson.

The least you can do is leave the change from your bottled beer. "If you take your quarter back, you're done," said Meister.

Rule 3. Get over yourself.
Don't request free drinks.

"I hate it when [customers] spill their drink and they want a free one," said Kempton. "No, you don't get a free one. I didn't spill it; it's your fault. I'll give you a towel."

Also keep in mind that every day is someone's birthday.

"If you're an ugly girl, don't ask for a free birthday shot," Meister stated. "Those are for hot girls."

Rule 4. Leave the mixing to the professionals
For starters, don't ask them to make it stronger.

According to Jeffers, this is a bartending amenity reserved for friends. Otherwise, confessed other bartenders, stronger-drink-seeking customers run the risk of getting a weaker pour.

Don't request less ice or less mixer, either.

"Listen, you're not gonna get any more liquor if you have less ice," said Geoff Bommer, another University District bartender. "That's not the case at all."

Similar insinuations that 'tenders can't properly pour won't go far in making friends behind the bar.

Meister said he wouldn't tolerate the Do you make a good martini? question.

"Yeah, I can chill vodka with the best of them," he muttered.

Furthermore, he straight up refuses to serve buttery nipples or amaretto sours for guys. But that's more out of supporting a customer's own self-respect, he said.

Rule 5. At last call, leave
"Don't ask for four drinks at last call," said Ruth Thurgood, a Columbus College of Art and Design student and bartender near campus. "You get one. You're one person."

Unless...

"Unless you're trying to sleep with the bartender," Meister said.

Or else...

Of course, some customers are holding on to that original doctrine of server mission statements. Customers will still pay separately, they will still keep track of who's in line, they may want to order multiple shots of different flavors. Yet such rebellion will be punished.

"It is definitely the bartenders' court," said Ally Vurignac, an OSU graduate. She added that girls who use cleavage as compensation are mistaken. "[Bartenders] wait on the people who they see tip more."

From customers' perspective, however, the requests are simple.

Dorian Williams, former OSU student, is content "as long as my beer's cold and there's booze in my drinks."

Oh, and one last piece of advice:

"Don't ask us what our real job is," said Meister.

Originally Published: July 15, 2009

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Comments
  1. interesting article, even if it does not further endear me to the characters here. for example, one of those bartenders will chose what he wants to serve to people based on their own "self-respect"? what a self-absorbed, misogynist prick thing to say. (fingers crossed that he’s joking.)

    jilted drinker | 2009-07-15 - 05:52:55 PM (CDT)
  2. Great article! Number 2 cracked me up! That’s EXACTLY what I’m thinkin when someone uses the word ’cheapest’. I mean, ask about the specials. Or just ask for "the best deal on miller (or bud, whatever). When a customer asks what’s ’cheapest’, I’m fearing the worst. And its not ok for your friends to come up to the bar and try to ’order thru you’ so that they don’t have to wait their turn while your drinks are being made. I really hate line cutters.

    bartends | 2009-07-16 - 07:23:40 PM (CDT)
  3. i love everything about this article. everyone in the whole world should read this. it should be posted at every bar every where

    hates drunk jerks | 2009-07-16 - 01:13:45 AM (CDT)
  4. I agree with most of this article, except Meister actually refusing to give a customer the drink that they want, and then bitching about people not tipping well enough. If you want someone to tip you well, refusing to serve someone the drink they want is not going to get you there. Or giving "hot girls" free birthday shots but not the ugly ones. That’s a good way to piss off your customers.

    I agree | 2009-07-17 - 02:56:23 AM (CDT)
  5. Ever been to vegas? To be the hottest club, you must have the hottest, and the most, women. Hot girls get free passes to all of the cool bars and vip pool parties. Hot girls attract men and their heavy drinking heavy spending. Even smart DJ’s know that you cater to female energy, so you play music that girls love to shake their as*es to. If he’s only giving free birthday shots to the hot girls, its because he realizes the benefits to having hot girls in the bar.

    bartender chick | 2009-07-17 - 07:20:42 AM (CDT)
  6. ....I don’t agree with refusing to give the customer the drink that they want. I’ve never really heard of bartenders complaining about such a thing. So what if a guy likes girly drinks? Order that Sex on the Beach like a man!
    Heaven forbid he is actually gay and you’re discriminating.

    bartender chick | 2009-07-17 - 07:25:12 AM (CDT)
  7. Asking what the specials are or what’s the cheapest does not necessarily mean they are a cheap tipper. I know both that walk that line. I have one friend who will do it all the time, but he will tip great. I myself ask for the specials, but I make sure my bartender is taken care off. It is an unwritten rule amongst my friends, Take care of the bartender and they will take care of you. The next issue I have to agree with is, if a man orders a so called girly drink, what happens if it is for the girls u are with? I personally love buttery nipples, but I prefer the industrial strength oatmeal cookie which adds goldschlager and Jager.

    And last but not least, sitting there being quiet waiting for your drink. I watch it happen all the time, bartenders tend to take care of the regulars and friends first. How do you build a new customer base if you do not take care of the so called newbie. They could be your cash cow later on. This one I know from experience, and it bugs the crap out of me.

    Scott | 2009-07-17 - 03:32:54 PM (CDT)
  8. This must be read by every person that goes out to a bar!!! I ve been a bartender for 6 years and have encountered the craziest people alive. The spilled drink for free is not happening!! I must say I m the easiest going bartender ever and get taken advantage of all the time. If your want my time spent talking to you then you better tip me. I always tell people I am not a freaking volunteer!!

    sassy | 2009-07-17 - 04:19:27 PM (CDT)
  9. Kate,

    Great article. I laughed my butt off and showed it to the rest of the bartenders! Coming from a bartender everything in here is so true. This should be read by every one turning 21 so they know better. The worst thing you can do is piss off your local bartender... we are the gods!!

    Sarah | 2009-07-18 - 12:49:20 PM (CDT)
  10. I guess I am the only person that finds this article to be slightly worthless.This aren’t advice in any shape or form unless you are homophobic and somehow managed to have the worlds best tits. Serve people the drinks they ask for and sure drunk hot girls mean money but shorting someone because their mom got kicked in the stomach and made an ugly baby isn’t right. Just do your fucking job and SERVE people and enjoy you tips. Is it really that hard?

    Tanto | 2009-07-19 - 05:20:25 AM (CDT)
  11. I am a bartender and all this needed to be said. I know Todd "king of all bartenders" Meister and he is right, i hate making stupid girly shots for a bunch of guys and I dont give away free birthday shots to anyone no matter how hot they are.

    B-tender to the stars | 2009-07-19 - 09:52:08 PM (CDT)
  12. ok so i have worked at a bar on campus and i could not agree more with this article more. no customer wants to admit it, but its true. i dont even want to admit it, but i did too. i didnt care who it was ordering, but anyone that ordered amaretto sours i made fun of. unless you are drinking it for taste (though they are pretty tasty) nobody ever drinks one to actually get drunk. they are 40 proof. whats the point of that.. after all the calories from the sour mix they wont even get you drunk. these people might sound like assholes, but when you have 200 drunk people in front of you all night you have very little sympathy from the bartenders. we are doing a job and promoting an image. you dont like how it works find a small hole in the wall bar and stay out of campus bars or downtown. pretty much tip well or stay out of the way.

    q | 2009-07-19 - 11:04:28 PM (CDT)
  13. I agree with it all but the thing that i agree with most is "don’t ask me what my real job is". Just because you work 9-5 at a crappy bank job or some other mind numbing career making $35,000 a year dont think that my job isnt real because im having fun and makine twice as much as you.

    macky | 2009-07-19 - 12:09:58 AM (CDT)
  14. Any customer who disagrees with this article is just asking to not get served.

    If you’re a punk, jerk, poor tipper, terrible at ordering drinks, you won’t get my service.

    Keeping up the attitude that bartenders are somehow your civil servant is just going to get you bad service.

    Laws | 2009-07-20 - 04:48:42 PM (CDT)
  15. I have to say I disagree. Last time I checked, tips aren’t mandatory, but rather, something based on merit. When I serve people, I go out of my way to be friendly, helpful and efficient. I don’t see why bartending should be any different. If I’ve got an asshole bartender that thinks he’s the boss, or a dumb girl that was only hired for her looks, I’m not going to tip as well as I would a friendly and courteous bartender. The latter may be just as busy or stressed, but it’s part of their job to make each guest feel welcome and important (until of course, that customer is rude or disorderly).

    The culture of an expected tip per drink is stupid. Wow, congrats, Lord Bartender can open a bottle of beer and STILL managed to be short and unpleasant. Does he still deserve a full tip for that?

    Ben | 2009-07-20 - 06:53:50 PM (CDT)
  16. I know Todd Meister and it’s the life.

    Karl | 2009-07-20 - 10:50:38 PM (CDT)
  17. Todd Meister is fat.

    AndIKnowFat | 2009-07-20 - 11:03:19 PM (CDT)
  18. Kate is fat too.

    IAlsoKnowFat | 2009-07-20 - 11:05:08 PM (CDT)
  19. Todd Meister is phat.

    AndIKnowPhat | 2009-07-20 - 01:33:53 AM (CDT)
  20. tod meister sounds like a douche i hope he is my bartender at some point down the road so i can stiff him on a tip

    fuck meister | 2009-07-21 - 02:35:19 PM (CDT)
  21. someone let me know where Todd Meister bartends so I can avoid that place

    Strawberry Daiquiri | 2009-07-21 - 03:34:39 PM (CDT)
  22. you are a complete doosh bag

    2dollartipper | 2009-07-25 - 05:19:45 PM (CDT)
  23. I agree with comment # 15 "Any customer who disagrees with this article is just asking to not get served.

    If you’re a punk, jerk, poor tipper, terrible at ordering drinks, you won’t get my service.

    Keeping up the attitude that bartenders are somehow your civil servant is just going to get you bad service. "

    My father always told me, to never piss off your lawyer, your wife or your bartender.... !" Trust me.. as some one old enough to be the father of most of the readers of "U", Its no fun being around drunks unless you are one of them!

    If you can’t tip the bartender, the don’t go out. I go out of my way to know my clients names and even Birthdays, listen to them when they slur the name of their girl/boy friends name while sucking on the neck of someone else.. ( more could be added here,}, but my job is to give you good service and keep a whole shitload of secrets....

    Tip the bartender, it keeps our mouth shut!

    johnny Overpour | 2009-07-29 - 01:40:35 AM (CDT)
  24. i’m a bartender on campus and i couldn’t agree more with #3!!

    so you talked to me for five minutes... now i owe you a free drink? don’t ask bartenders to "hook you up," especially if you’ve never met them before. it’s super annoying and rude!

    getting fired for giving away drinks is not worth the extra $.50, trust me.

    crast | 2009-07-30 - 04:07:41 PM (CDT)
  25. Maybe Meister is bitching so much because he gets shitty tips. maybe he gets shitty tips because he’s an asshole who doesn’t give his customers what they want and is only a bartender so he can sleep with hot chicks.

    The rest of the article seemed to make sense. I wouldn’t have interviewed a prick though.

    justbethie | 2009-08-03 - 02:55:18 AM (CDT)
  26. anyone who works at a bar will agree with this lmao jackasses who dont realize bartenders pick the order of who they serve (and if its a busy bar LONG WAIT) will realize tippin is everything and just like a restaurant they gotta keep it movin more customers more money period

    barback | 2009-08-08 - 05:33:08 PM (CDT)
  27. Free shots are only for hot chicks?? When will the bars start hiring hot male bartenders? The only male bartenders I seem run into are washed up middle aged men, hoping to make a few extra dollars because they decided working at a stinkhole was a way better gig than going to school and getting a real job. And if you’re dating a bartender, they cheat. I can predict that with 99% certainty. And chick bartenders only pay attention to male customers b/c they think if they show enough of the cleavage, it gets them a bigger tip--and it usually does.
    And dear Scott #8, you sound like a big homo. If you have to ask home much anything is at a bar or restaurant, then you can’t afford it, and I doubt you tip that well. You probably take out your calculator to make sure you only tip 15%

    cheers2u | 2009-08-20 - 11:58:04 PM (CDT)
  28. I hope bartenders working at The Stube don’t actually expect to make tips anyway. They’re near a college campus. Duh, broke college students are usually the patrons.

    brokeasajoke | 2009-08-20 - 12:01:35 AM (CDT)
  29. This article pisses me off. The other night i went to a concert and ordered a couple of drinks from a bartender who went out of his way to ignore me from the very beginning. I stood patiently, but obviously awaiting his service and he overlooked for a long time. Finally my sister who was standing behind me moves next to me and he asked her what she wanted, (knowing she was with me). I gave him the money, he gives the change back to her. Couldnt believe this, and i was infuriated that she gave him a tip. Went back to the bar 40 minutes later, recieved shitty service, he reluctantly served me and i gave him no tip. Went back again and the guy confronted me about not paying him a tip. This sense of entitlement bartenders have is out of control. How can anyone tell me i should tip this asshole? Please id like to no.

    Bill | 2010-02-27 - 09:11:42 PM (CDT)
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