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Confessions of a former Apostolic (part one)

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By Bram Fulk

From media exposure like Bill Maher's movie "Religulous" to ongoing scrutiny of the presidential candidates' spiritual affiliations, religion is very much the hot topic nowadays. In addition, the recent events surrounding Warren Jeffs and the FLDS Church in Texas have brought the public eye down on religious denominations that strictly adhere to fundamental guidelines. UWeekly spoke with a young woman who, until quite recently, belonged to the Apostolic Pentecostal faith. Though obviously quite different in belief from the FLDS Church, the Apostolic Church does adhere to a set of strict Conservative Christian values. The interview explored two aspects of Apostolic life, and will be presented in two parts: life within the church this week, and life after leaving the religion next week.

UW: I'll be the first to admit — I know next to nothing about the Apostolic Religion. What sets it apart from what we would call more "mainstream" protestant religions?

The religion's very strict. It's kind of like a lifestyle. You pretty much live by what your pastor says. Most people are Sunday church goers, [but] Apostolics go to church four to five times a week. Every activity, every friend you have, your church is your family. Your church is your life.

UW: What was it like growing up within the religion? I assume your family was very much involved in it.

You were very different from everybody. You live that lifestyle, but they don't want you to live a secular life, but you're going to public schools where everybody is so different and you're used to being around everybody who's the same as you are. It was hard growing up and looking different. It wasn't about beliefs because, as a child, I didn't really understand it. [It was] having to wear the long skirts, never cutting my hair, never listening to the radio or watching TV.

UW: What are some of the other ways the lifestyle as a whole is different?

As far as material things, the women can't wear shorts, can't wear skirts that are above the knee, and you can never wear pants — absolutely not. You can't wear fingernail polish, no makeup, no jewelry of any kind unless it's a wedding ring. You can't go to movie theaters, you can't go to public swimming pools, and, inside the church, you cannot stand within six inches of someone of the opposite sex unless it was a family relative. If it was, like, a boy my age, and I wasn't somehow related to him — (mock hushed tone) which I'm sure I probably was (laughs) — I couldn't stand within six inches of him, and the boys had to sit on one side of the church in a certain row and the girls had to sit on the other. Men aren't allowed to have facial hair, to wear shorts, to wear sleeveless shirts [but] men didn't have as many restrictions, of course.

UW: That's like, always? I mean, men can't wear shorts around the house, girls can't wear pajama pants to bed…

No. It all comes down to conviction. If you don't feel conviction, they don't feel like you're truly a part of it.

UW: What's conviction?

Self conviction. It's almost like feeling guilty. Conviction is a commonly-used word in the Apostolic religion.

UW: I don't understand. When you feel conviction, do you feel guilty for not being religious enough?

They say it's God's way of — that you're feeling God. You're letting the Devil influence you. To me it just feels like there's a lot of fear. They like to instill fear, and that's what keeps you going to church. You're so afraid.

UW: Is it fear of God or fear of disappointing the church or fear of humiliating yourself in the eyes of the church?

It's all of that. Because they tell you to fear God. Your biggest fear in life is God. They'll tell you the actual words, "fear God." Then there's the fear of making mistakes because [if you do] the church will shun you. You cross them or do wrong, they'll shun you. They're not going to forgive you.

UW: So do they teach that God is a loving God as well?

Yeah.

UW: Then how do they reconcile the two? Is it like, "God is a loving God, unless you do Him wrong?"

No. It's hard to put into words. It's just — I guess it never made sense to me because I would fear making mistakes. Like, I was afraid to make mistakes. I was terrified of God. I was constantly praying, constantly repenting my sins, in fear of something, but I never knew why I was so in fear of Him. I think I spent more time being in fear of God rather than being in fear of the Devil.

Originally Published: Issue 674 - October 22, 2008

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  1. sounds very much like the FLDS- control through fear. I personally have never understood any religion that says you have to worship God. Saying God wants to be worshipped is the same as saying God is vain. I sincerely doubt that.

    Fred | 2008-10-21 - 07:22:48 PM (CDT)
  2. Apostolic Pentecostalism is the faith of the early church and the religion of the Holy Scriptures. For starters, we believe in the Oneness of God, Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ, the Gifts of the Holy Spirit and a Holy Spirit filled life. What we believe, we should practice, and show forth in our lives. We must walk our talk. If one forgets about charity, we should remind him of it. Holiness is a Teaching of Scripture. After all, if you don’t want to "live it" why "be in it" in the first place?

    Bill | 2008-10-22 - 03:31:00 PM (CDT)
  3. Apostate testimony is unreliable. Carolyn Jessop gave false testimony concerning the FLDS. People who leave any religion have a vested interest in potraying that religion in the blackest terms possible.Please! Just A Little Scepticism!

    Thomas | 2008-10-22 - 04:13:24 PM (CDT)
  4. yikes. so many things i could say about this but i, myself, am a non-denominational christian. in that sense i don’t follow the early church and old testament word-for-word such as following the rules of dress, adornments, & activities. i believe simply that God sent His only son Jesus to the world to live like us in the world as a human being and then die for ALL of us on the cross taking on our sins so that we may live eternally in heaven when we die and praise/thank God for his grace and mercy. worshipping God is not an act that God says we HAVE to do. it’s an act that comes naturally because worship=thanking/acknowledging what He has done for us as his creation and as sinners that don’t deserve it.

    katy | 2008-10-22 - 04:23:39 PM (CDT)
  5. Interesting. I am an Apostolic and have NEVER heard of not being able to listen to the radio! As far as television that is an issue that has in back of it MORAL values. Some apostolics DO have tvs, others do not. Of course the tremendous amount of SECULAR research demonstrating the benefits of a tv free environment would not be brought into the equation here. I mean than it would give some weight to this choice of men and women to raise their families without this influence. Better to leave it a KOOK fringe slam. But back to the Radio nonsense, In fact there is such a volume of Apostolic generated music preaching etc available on the radio around the nation it kind of makes this lady look a little less than reliable, And what is she implying with her " Mock Hushed tone" ? that the church she was a member of was somehow secretly promiscous and all inbred or something? No what comes through loud and clear is a resentment of growing up in an environment with any kind of moral precepts or principles that went against her grain. Now as an adult she is free to watch all the tv and listen to all the radio she wants! hurrah! Silly sensationalism. Hope it gets you a plethora of readers.

    Joseph | 2008-10-22 - 05:12:02 PM (CDT)
  6. First off I must say that growing up in a religion that you did not choose can be hard for someone to understand. Being a child and having religion forced on you by your parents, and only knowing that side of life can be confusing for someone and has many consequences in someones adult life. Not all churches are like this, there are many that are wonderful and do great things for their congregation and for the community. But I myself was raised in the Apostolic religion (UPC), and I know what its like. If its not something you understand and want to follow, and have NO choice, It really does damage. Especially growing up so sheltered and guarded, then out the door you go when you become an adult out into the real world. Where you have to make decisions and decide if this is something you want. And that is hard to do when you know nothing else. It all comes down to faith in god, and faith in your church. If you go to a corrupt church not knowing thats the way it is, you end up having a lot of insecurities and trust issues in life, and its hard to move to the next church and trust what is going on and what is being preached to you. And it is true, in some families that are very strict, parents would not allow their children to listen to the radio, I would know, because thats the way my church was, of course you could listen to stations like the river, but it was very strict on a lot of what kids were allowed to do. I know in my own church we were not allowed to even own a Disney movie in our homes, or have stuffed animals. Every church is different in what they follow and how they read the bible, and how they choose to live. It is especially hard to live the lifestyle if your doing it to gain acceptance from your family, because that may be the only way to get it.

    jill | 2008-10-23 - 12:26:37 AM (CDT)
  7. I am Apostolic and I am very sad to read this article... I believe what she is saying, because I have seen it to varying degrees. That is why I am trying to raise my children not out of "fear", but out of "love" and "respect". Constantly repenting, and being fearful should not be an Apostolic lifestyle, and as a Youth Pastor I did my best to "combat" that way of thinking. As a leader within the "Apostolic" movement, I try to be as careful and loving as possible, so that people like this young lady could not say what she has said. For anyone who is reading this article, please do not paint with a broad brush... While this type of ministry exists, not everyone is like this.

    johna | 2008-11-04 - 07:17:37 PM (CDT)
  8. wow, i am irritated by this article. i started attending an apostolic church on my own, no parents, when i was 16. no one made me do anything. i never had a fear of God. the God i serve commands that we fear him but if you would study it out it means to reverence him. it is too bad that this person grew up in a church that focused so much on rules and never taught her the joys of having a relationship with God. is it not true that most people leave churches, apostolic or not because another person offends them or does something they don’t like? i sincerely hope that people reading this article will seek out another person that has been a part of a real apostolic church that is real in attitude and how they treat people. not all apostolic churches run in a dictator fashion

    machelle | 2008-11-11 - 01:55:12 AM (CDT)
  9. This testimony is typical of Oneness believers from the UPCI (United Pentecostal Church International) however, there are many different Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal churches and organizations. When the Oneness movement first started everyone was together (whites and blacks). Philosphies in church rules and standards are split mainly along racial/cultural lines. For instance, in black Apostloic churches women were discouraged from wearing red or open-toe shoes because in poor black neighborhoods where their churches were usually located that attire was associated with prostitutes. Both sides preached against women wearing pants, but only the white churches insisted on women not cutting their hair. There are many similarities in theology but because the United Pentecostal Church discouraged fellowship with other Oneness organizations like the PAW (Pentecostal Assemblies of the World) they tend to be more isolated and subsequently more ostracized than other Apostolic churches. Currently white Oneness churches tend to be much more conservative to the point of being very legalistic. Thier black counterparts have largely abandoned the rigid legalism in favor for more of a more subtle approach. Churches in the movement vary from being large and vibrant to stagnant and tyrranic. While sometimes seen in the black churches but not as much, the United Pentecostal Church displays a judgmenatlism flowing thier legalistic dogma which repels many would be adherants, and as a result they have been steadily declining in numbers over the past few years. Basically no matter how devout or sincere you are, if you don’t look like them or hold to thier standards they’ll try to "fully" convert you.

    Jordan Dayoub | 2009-03-02 - 03:34:09 PM (CDT)
  10. Greetings all!! I am Apostolic and I LOVE it! I am a member of a UPC church and no one is pressured so hard that they feel guilty, I was originally COGIC , 3rd generation down, so I know ALL about groing up in a strci Pent. Household, but I am open minded when I hear opinions. One Pentecostal Denomination is not holier/better than another, We all need to be saved and filled with the Holy Ghost and stay in the Word of God, and in constant fellowshio with GOD then you will know God’s will for your life. God is coming back for HIS ppl NOT a denomination. God Bless!! Holiness is right

    Cynthia | 2009-03-09 - 09:47:44 PM (CDT)
  11. Well, i have a lot of thoughts going thru my mind right now. One, i have a relative in the apostolic faith, and she had turned 690 degrees on her family. I am her only child and she will have nothing to do with me, She also told me i was going to hell if i do not come to her church with is 45 minutes 1 way. I have been doing this for over 9 yrs and am was tired. There are other apostolic churches around but she say they are of the devil. What am i to do? She will not even pick up the phone and talk to me her only daughter.

    Rosa | 2009-05-03 - 09:59:15 PM (CDT)
  12. Where is God in any of your conversation? We are all so worked up and ready to disprove the other. I think it’s best to just stick to the Bible and not get caught up in how man is interpretting it all.

    nan | 2009-05-12 - 04:12:24 PM (CDT)
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